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Blaine
02-05-2010, 11:10 AM
I'm sure many of you know this, but it was eye-opening for me. The complete web CNN article with some great links can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/herbal-heart-drugs

Here's the text of the main article:


Herbal remedies, heart drugs a dangerous combo
By Sarah Klein, Health.com
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* Recent study names 25 herbal products that people with cardiovascular diseases should avoid
* Herbal medicinces safe on their own, but can cause problems when taken with heart medicine
* Herbal products not subject to the same checks as prescription drugs
* One doctor says you should get rid of all herbal supplements

RELATED TOPICS

* Herbal Medicine
* Heart Attacks
* Cholesterol
* Prescription Drugs

(Health.com) -- If you take heart medication, you may want to avoid some of the most popular over-the-counter herbal supplements on the market, including ginseng, saw palmetto, and echinacea. These herbal remedies -- and many others -- can cause potentially serious problems in people taking heart medications, a new report warns.

"These products are not by themselves dangerous," says the lead author, Dr. Arshad Jahangir, a cardiologist and professor of medicine at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona. "But when taken with medications for cardiovascular diseases, a relatively safe compound can become dangerous."

Herbal remedies such as ginseng, ginkgo, garlic, black cohosh, St. John's wort, hawthorn, saw palmetto, and echinacea can dilute, intensify, or exacerbate the side effects of prescription heart drugs such as blood thinners and cholesterol-lowering statins, the report says.

Some supplements may also increase heart rate and blood pressure, causing potential complications in heart patients.

The report, published this week in the February 9 issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology, lists more than 25 herbal products that people with cardiovascular diseases should avoid, including 12 of the 20 best-selling herbal supplements in the United States, according to the American Botanical Council.

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For instance, St. John's wort, which is often taken to treat depression and anxiety, affects how the body absorbs dozens of prescription medications and may diminish the efficacy of statins and beta-blockers, a class of drugs used to treat high blood pressure and heart-rhythm disorders.

Herbal supplements such as garlic and ginkgo, meanwhile, can interfere with blood thinners (most notably warfarin) and increase the risk of bleeding associated with those drugs.

"Stay away from the four G's: garlic, ginkgo, ginseng, and ginger," says Dr. Elsa-Grace Giardina, a cardiologist at Columbia University, in New York, who has studied herbal remedies and heart drugs but did not participate in the current report. "They all have effects on bleeding."

Even grapefruit juice, which people often drink for weight loss and heart health, can increase the blood concentration of statins, raising the risk of liver damage and muscle pain, the report notes.

Older people should be especially mindful of interactions such as these, since they are much more likely than younger people to have heart problems and may be taking a half-dozen prescription drugs or more, Dr. Jahangir says.

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Many heart patients -- and even some doctors -- aren't aware of the dangers of mixing heart drugs and herbal products, he adds. Doctors rarely ask for a detailed list of the alternative remedies that patients take, and patients seldom volunteer that information.

"Patients will typically discuss prescription or over-the-counter medicines, but in their minds these [herbal] compounds are not medicines," Dr. Jahangir says.

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Mixing heart medicine and herbal products is made even more risky by the lack of scientific evidence and regulation for herbal products and other dietary supplements, the report suggests. Although the potency of some herbal products can rival that of some prescription medicines, they are not subject to the same checks that prescription drugs are.

Few herbal products have been widely tested for safety and efficacy in randomized, placebo-controlled trials, as the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires of prescriptions drugs. Moreover, the FDA does not approve dietary supplements before they appear on the market, and monitors the safety and purity of herbal products only if consumers report side effects or other problems.

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As a result, many popular herbal products haven't been proven to work, and some contain impurities or inconsistent amounts of the active ingredient.

"The public believes there is a check on everything, which is not true at all," says Dr. Jahangir.

For her part, Dr. Giardina recommends that heart patients -- and anyone else, for that matter -- steer clear of herbal products.

"Frankly, I would just avoid them all," she says. "Go into your medicine cabinet and get rid of anything you bought in an herbal store that you take in a pill form. Save your money and go buy a pair of shoes."

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Cholesterol
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Prescription Drugs
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Pam Alexson
02-06-2010, 10:03 AM
Very interesting on the heals of something I have just made a huge oversight on myself and it so adversely effected me .. ENERGY drinks should be on this list.

I did not realize that my son had put these nifty little packets in the cupboard.. that were the ones you add to a bottle of water... and all I saw was 4 C instant tea in many different flavors. I was thinking .. what a pleasant alternative to crystal light!

NOT!!!

I was continually drinking these daily and one day saw he and his GF discussing them. When I looked closer with my BRAND new first ever RX of bi-focals, I saw the words: ENERGY DRINK.. listed on the back was a warning of Taurine double the amount!!!

Maybe this has been one answer to my recent ramping up of chest pain.. HCM'ers BE WARE if you don't read it or can't see the writing get someone who can and USE extra caution as your eye sight fails you.
Pam

Reenie
02-06-2010, 12:43 PM
Oh wow, Pam! I'm sorry you didn't know this, but am happy you've figured this out now. Hopefully you'll be feeling better soon.

Deedee
02-09-2010, 05:27 AM
Is green tea okay? I just gave up english breakfast tea in favor of green tea about 2 weeks ago. I don't even know if green tea is considered herbal but I spoze it could be.

Great info on the other items, I didn't know about a couple of those, thanks for the great post.

Pam Alexson
02-09-2010, 09:41 AM
I think it bears watching I can not have green tea because it interferes w/ coumadin and I take that secondary to history of a-fib.

Eileen2345
02-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Pam, you are so right about Taurine.

I used to work for a vitamin supplement company and the Chief Science Officer, the guy who formulates all the supplements, put Taurine in EVERYTHING!

He called it "The Amino Acid Blend." Taurine was one of the main amino acids.
It was in the daily vitamins, the powder blends, everything.
I would get calls from old people who would take the daily vitamin, and they would say they got jittery and a racing heart, this happend often.

He also put Ginseng in everything too, even the Sublingual B-12.
Ginseng is very bad for people who have blood pressure problems.

Those products got people engergized and that is what they wanted, that's what made money.



Edited to Add:

Blaine, this is a great article that will help a lot of people, thank you for posting this !